Old v. Gold

Old v. Gold

The podcast that holds your fond childhood memories up to the harsh light of today


Old v. Gold 222: The Empire Strikes Back

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Season finale and conclusion of our 2-part Star Wars smackdown video spectacular! Having shot our womp rat on Star Wars last week, we move on to 1980’s The Empire Strikes Back, where Irvin Kershner takes the tauntaun reins and leads the saga into a dark cave of personal discovery. H.P. Mendoza and Mark Del Lima rejoin us for our second tour of the Star Wars universe, where we get our Hothian chill on, do handstands in a swamp, hang out on an asteroid, enjoy scenic Cloud City with its luxurious carbonite baths, and finally end our vacation as many families do, with a really awkward father-son moment.

After our usual old-or-gold vote, we then raise the stakes and put our money where our exogorth is, taking on the question: which is the better film, Star Wars or Empire? Spoiler: the answer is roughly as conclusive as Empire.

It’s OK to be racist against creatures that are mythical.

Podcasters: Robert, Tim, H.P., Mark

Video Index

  • 00:00 Intro and Memories
  • 08:42 The Dark Side
  • 17:13 What the Fett?
  • 21:26 The Changes, the Clouds, the Humor
  • 26:28 The Vote
  • 31:20 The Smackdown: “Star Wars” vs. “Empire”

Audio Index

  • 00:00 Intro and Memories
  • 10:21 Second First Impressions
  • 13:48 The Dark Side
  • 27:56 What the Fett?
  • 34:05 The Changes, the Clouds, the Humor
  • 43:53 The Vote
  • 49:54 The Smackdown: “Star Wars” vs. “Empire”

Comments? Questions?

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Old v. Gold Preview: a Force-ful Season 2 Finale

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No new podcast this week, because we’re too busy prepping for …

The Two-Part Old v. Gold Season 2 Finale Star Wars Smackdown Spectacular!

Over the next two weeks, we’ll take a look back, as best we can through Lucas’ relentless meddling, at the two movies that started it all — Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back (the only titles by which we recognize them). We’ll not only give each film the usual Old or Gold vote, but at the end of Part 2, we’ll tackle the question that jedis and droids alike have been wrestling with since the dawn of the Republic: which of the two movies is better, the zippy original adventure or its darker follow-up?

And, accompanying the usual audio podcast for each episode will be a shorter video version! Joining us for our first foray into talking about movies on camera will be past podcast panelists and fellow filmmakers H.P. Mendoza and Mark Del Lima of Ersatz Film.

The schedule:

  • Tuesday, March 17 — Old v. Gold 221: Star Wars — video and full-length audio
  • Tuesday, March 24 — Old v. Gold 222: The Empire Strikes Back — also video and full-length audio!

And with that, we’ll wrap the season. Thanks for joining us, and meet us next week on Tatooine!


Old v. Gold 219: Contact

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She doesn't ever react to it, she's just like, 'Oh, FINE, I'm gonna go make a mix tape that expresses my angst.'

Podcasters: Robert, Tim, Dana, Justin

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Old v. Gold 211: RoboCop

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Oh look, an evil corporation controls everything, well duh. And maybe it wasn't as duh back then, but it's certainly duh now.

Podcasters: Robert, Tim, Sam

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Old v. Gold 210: The Lost Boys

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This creates a threatening atmosphere, 'cause you know kids with shaved heads and day laborers are very frightening to normal people.

Podcasters: Robert, Tim, Jack, Justin

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Hidden Deadly 2013: The Relaunchening

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Hello! Hidden Deadly is back from a lovely nap, with a new logo and website.

It’s been a while since we released A Lower Power (which you should check out if you haven’t); life and stuff, you know. But now we have a few things on horizons of varying distance.